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Makes me think of the Tim Burton movie

You're the fourth person to say that.

Ah. Unrelated then?

I'm a fan of the creepy, the unknown, the horrible. But in this particular case, no.

I don't think that tim burton created any of the movies named nine.

9 is a 2009 American computer-animated post-apocalyptic science fiction film directed by Shane Acker, written by Pamela Pettler, and produced by Jim Lemley, Dana Ginsburg, Tim Burton, and Timur Bekmambetov.

I don't know how you're doing that

3:22 AM

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doing what?

That

3:27 AM

Doin' that right there.

backtick

Grave

I didn't even know that character existed for ages

Are you calling me some time of foreign bug?

3:28 AM

Because that's rude. As my people would say: r00d (edited)

This belongs in #lounge

Anyone else's tulpa have something they like a lot more then is 'normal'? Wolf seems to like milk to an unexplainable level. Ah well, what ever makes him happy.

You mean normal for you?

7:28 AM

Then yes.

idk xD

Different people have different preferences - some people have desires and preferences that may seem extreme to others... or entirely reasonable to others, depending on the others' perspective.

Ehh, true.

It's probably very early [like that matters] to say that this has happened to me, but now I managed to search before asking questions and I found https://community.tulpa.info/thread-host-personality-changes :) I think I have been more social online and asking how older friends are doing and talking to family more and I think I was also more social at offline event when I "should" have been too shy to say anything.

Host personality changes?

So, I'm just curious, is there any possible way that creating a tulpa may affect your personality? Like, if you were chatty and talkative before, could you become a little more closed off? Or vice ver

that's great

hi

9:30 PM

I'm having a little problem with my tulpa, I think

What's going on?

well

9:31 PM

I started forcing like 4 years ago

9:32 PM

and I've barely made any progress, my tulpa's not vocal yet and I don't even know if she's sentient or not (edited)

Hmm, that does sound concerning. How are you forcing? Are you following any guides?

not really, I've read a lot of guides but I'm not following them, just doing my own thing

What type of method are you following - by that I mean, what are you trying to do in order to achieve any progress?

I usually passive force during the day, trying to visualize her and talking to her, imagining her next to me whenever I can and I remember to, etc. and then I active force at night, in bed, for like 15-30 minutes before going to sleep

have you been passively waiting for your tulpa to speak? maybe start mentally anticipating what that might sound like

Precisely what Winter said. Guides should be used a guidelines and not something concrete, so you're doing fine in that aspect.

that tends to help for some reason

Also, have you tried the "Surprise me" question?

yeah, nothing happened

9:37 PM

(maybe that was the surprise?)

Primarily, the way to develop a personality is to treat them both as an individual and to give them experience of the world - which can include your speaking to them.

Oh wow. I think I just figured out why some tulpamancers never see a lot of progress.

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Oh?

Your tulpa will become what they were created to be.

sometimes she has like some kind of "idle animation" when I'm visualizing her but apart from that she never moves or does anything on her own

So if you only passive force, they'll never talk much.

You should tell her to stop being AFK and flick her forehead. Kidding, but at least there's some progress there. Do you have doubts often? Tulpabug does make a point, though Atlas has been doing active forcing as well.

What about only passive forcing leads to a lack of talking though? (edited)

I doubt a lot, yeah

Well, if they were never created to talk, they won't

like, sometimes it looks she does something but I'm like "nah, it wasn't her it was me puppeting her or just an intrusive thought or something"

@Nezumi I would perhaps suggest talking to them more consistently, describing what you think about the world around you and pointing out what you like or dislike about it. Leave some space for possible responses without expecting one.

she was created to talk, tho

Those doubts can discourage a tulpa because they can hear them.

Perhaps asking some questions while passively forcing is a good idea. Maybe she's become a good listener.

mmmm like, yeah I can imagine if you dismiss a lot of that then you may actually be receiving something from your tulpa already

@Tulpabug I think I see what you mean, are you saying that because while passive forcing someone might just talk "at" their tulpa and their attention is compromised, it doesn't give the tulpa a chance to speak in response?

I ask questions and stuff when I'm talking to her

I think if they aren't made to talk early on, it's like learning to talk when you are not a native speaker.

I usually talk about what I'm doing or what's happening around me and what I think about it and then I ask her what she thinks

It's not part of your nature.

when they first communicate it's likely they'll feel a lot like your own thoughts

I would also recommend not outright dismissing possible responses, but simply not making assumptions without more clear responses.

mhm

9:45 PM

idk, it's been 4 years, it's hard not to doubt

9:45 PM

not only her, I doubt myself too, maybe not everyone can make a tulpa

The doubt becomes an internalised belief for the tulpa as well.

doubt happens, it's normal (and normally not too big of a deal after a while)

That makes me wonder: If someone makes a tulpa and works on the tulpa very inconsistently so the tulpa ends up being years old but unable to talk most of the time (pretty much my situation) will the tulpa have trouble learning to talk because they've spent so much time not talking?

If I'm right, the tulpa needs to work on habit breaking, to lose any feeling of comfort in remaining silent.

That makes since

I've noticed it in my host. She has become comfortable in not controlling the body, so she has no instinct to anymore.

That could be why my tulpas are very quiet

9:50 PM

So what your saying @Tulpabug is if u didn't have the thought of your tulpa to speak could be the problem?

a lot of people's tulpas are quiet, it's part of why the made tulpa week in order to encourage them to speak more

To start with

Do you enjoy teasing, atlas?

9:51 PM

Try teasing her. Maybe she'll give you a response if you playfully bully her enough.

@Castiel I think so.

w-what

9:52 PM

how do I tease her?

Like my tulpas have talk at one time but for a week they bin quite

Ohoho, you poke her cheek and tell her "I'll make you talk whether you like it or not."

I cannot encourage or suggest the act of bullying your tulpa

Doubts take up brain space if they happen right away. (1) tulpa forms some thoughts (2) host notices (3) host starts filling the brain with thoughts. This is why meditation helps tulpamancy.

I spend around 12 hour at work with them

Of course, with a smirk across your face. Teasing is not bullying unless if it's malicious.

9:53 PM

Poke her cheek now and tell her to puff it out for you. If she doesn't attack he sides with tickles.

9:54 PM

You are reading this now, you know what to expect, atlas's quiet tupper. You must escape the tickles.

that sounds cute

Yea I don't get much time to meditation at work

9:54 PM

@Tulpabug

Do you have time not at work?

9:55 PM

I guess if you spend 12 hours there then the answer is probably a big fat no

Sometimes I have kids

9:56 PM

I do find time for meditation

But yeah, keep trying to coax a response out of her. At this point, get physical but not like, innappropriate physical. Ruffle her hair, comb it, give her a back massage.